14 February 2007

Tory Outlaws

Hot off the press: laws aren't worth respecting unless they were passed by conservatives. Seriously.

I know it's too much to ask, but I would love for someone to go to jail on this, just on principle.

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to jail for not doing the impossible?

So the libs were in power for the previous 13 years,

most of it in a majority,

and if the CPC can't solve kyoto in 60 days they should go to jail.

Yeah, I'm sure most Canadians will go along with you on that one.

Oh, BTW, check the conservative blogs, Harper's pulling the pin on this one.

It's election time.

I guess Dion's English lessons will have to wait.

February 14, 2007  
Blogger wilson61 said...

No worries for Dion, Mark Holland has 'the plan' for meeting Kyoto by 2012 all ready. NEP2 , ready to take on the road during the election, soon to be called.

February 15, 2007  
Blogger HearHere said...

Whuile you are on a roll here are a few more bills the Liberals could get passed into law:
Come up with a cure for cancer in 60 days or we will sue you.
Pass a law forbidding cows from farting because they cause greenhouse gas.
Come up with a plan within 60 days to immediately cure obesity or we will sue you.
I'm sure you guys could really earn your pay and "make parliament work" with more of these schoolyard games.

February 15, 2007  
Blogger Gavin Magrath said...

So this is where Tory support comes from. The post was two sentences long, and 2 of 3 respondents still managed to misunderstand.

Anon - they don't have to solve it, they just have to produce a plan for solving it.

But this is not about Kyoto, it's about respect for the law. No government gets to ignore laws properly passed by the elected representatives of the people. That's anti-democratic and, quite frankly, treasonous. I abide by laws passed by tory governmetns I disagree with because that's the way democracy works. No one gets to decide which laws are worth obeying.

That it is the governing party that is doing this is disgraceful, and that's why they should go to jail, not for failing to meet Kyoto targets.

And finally, what do you know about impossible? Are you a climate change researcher? An automotive manufacturer? A suburbs dweller who keeps a blue box? Harper says Kyoto is impossible because that's what his constituency elected him to say. That doesn't make it true, and in fact it's not true.

February 15, 2007  
Blogger Gavin Magrath said...

hearhere - I can come up with a plan to cure obesity in way less than sixty days. It's called exercise and a healthy diet.

Your analogy is as weak as the rest of your position.

February 15, 2007  
Anonymous Robert Loyalist said...

Harper unlike the last 3 prime ministers Is actually a REAL LEADER , the liberal Majority of the last 13 years was literally the most CORRUPT theiving government in the history of our great land.
This whole kyoto nonesence though...I do admit alot needs to be done but it requires a much LARGER scope then kyoto..
And with the emerging 3rd world world nations going insane with 1950s style refining and production, I will take some seriously politically incorrect solutions to make a noticeable effect on the climate.And that is the point the HONORABLE Mr Harper was getting at with his views on kyoto.
As a side note under the seditious liberal government of the last 13 years our emissions went up considerably I guess they were to buisy changing the social makeup of our cities to notice, I find it interesting now that the conservatives have actually exposed the mass pillage that was the liberal majority and REPAIRED some of the damage, doing in 1 solitary year more then the theiving liberals could do in 13, that the liberals are uning the 1 thing that may be somewhat lacking in Conservative policy as the crutch to continue their own continued fraud.

I think every party in Canada is borderline seditious for perpetuating the antiquated and ineffective parliment concept , but compared to the other 3 partys at least the Conservatives will refrain from turning our BEAUTIFUL country into a poligot reformatory, Resembling the wonderfully productive and diverse neighborhoods of rexdale /galloway and king/dufferin.

February 16, 2007  
Blogger Gavin Magrath said...

Ha! Harper realizes he's gone way too far and blinks. Took him two days, now that's principled leadership:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070216.KYOTO16/TPStory/TPNational/Politics/?cid=al_gam_nletter_thehill

February 16, 2007  
Blogger Gavin Magrath said...

Robert Loyalist - The people of India use 1/20th the energy we do per capita. So we would have to reduce our emissions 95% to be in the same league as them.

Blaming climate change on brown people in lands far away is completely groundless and frankly more like racism than reason.

February 16, 2007  
Blogger Penny said...

Good grief, Gavin!

You must've hit the bigtime, while I was resting up. Where did all the Harperford Wives come from??

The recent Kyoto vote was about honouring the legal commitment made by The Government of Canada - to Kyoto - not about someone going to jail for failing to meet its targets, Haperfords!

If it were, both Dion and Harper could make interesting cellmates!!

BTW, one reason our emissions have risen so much is thanks - as it were - to the increased pillaging of the Alberta Tar Sands in order to keep the supply of oil going to our good friends to the south.

It's an ecological disaster, as anyone who reads the papers knows! And Harper doesn't want to address the issue and alienate his donors - I mean supporters.

Anyway, don't forget, when Harper reneged on the Income Tax cut, he claimed he could do it with impunity, because his party didn't vote for it, despite the fact that the budget had passed with the support of a majority in Parliament....

So this suggestion that they'll just ignore this little bill, which passed through both Houses, is nothing new.

You'd think there had been a coup in this country, instead of an election, when a minority government decides to ignore the laws it doesn't like.

But how about the so-called "Opposition" parties allowing this travesty to persist?? They're all a disgrace to the concept of democracy!!

February 18, 2007  
Blogger Gavin Magrath said...

Hey Penny,

I have to confess I got things started by suggesting they should go to jail. That's with respect to the executive (read: Cabinet and PMO) from ignoring the duly enacted laws of Canada passed by the legislature. We don't get to ignore the law just because we voted against it. Anyway, that's where the wives came from. I'm thinking i might post a daily Harper-bashing article just to drive up my traffic - the CPC pays at least a few trolls to dig up any commentary and spew the regular garbage.

Also of course you are right - everyone knows that Alberta leads the anti-Kyoto charge because they are collectively engaged in the dirtiest and most environmentally destructive energy extraction project yet known to man. Once again selfless Ontario, which has more manufacturing jobs to lose than the rest put together, stands up for what is right, rather than standing up for what will put more money in our pockets.

Note to Robert Loyalist - THAT'S real leadership: Acknowledging there's a problem and looking for answers, including those that might cause some short-term pain for long-term gain. Real leadership is not belatedly acknowledging a problem and then adopting no plan because you don't like the plans other people have suggested and have none yourself.

February 19, 2007  
Blogger Penny said...

I understood you meant someone should go to jail for flouting Parliament, Gavin, not for failing to reach Kyoto targets in 60 days.

As usual, the Harpford choir deliberately misunderstood you and argued another point entirely.

Anyway, I like your suggestion for driving up traffic!! Means you might even get paid for... well, whatever it is google offers to pay us for.

Send 'em my way next! I'm offering advice to the lovelorn these days...

February 20, 2007  

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home